Strange reactions after the MDI debate on Salvation in Islam and Christianity

Posted: December 17, 2011 | Author: Abdullah al Andalusi | Filed under: articles by Abdullah, Christian extremism, Christianity, Debates, Silly |4 Comments »

After the debate on Salvation in Christianity and Islam on 4th December  2011, we had received many positive responses from both Muslims and Christians who attended. We would like to thank all the attendees for coming and making the event friendly, open and illuminating.

After we released the video of the event, a few online Christian forums were discussing the event.  Most comments were positive, however we there were some very strange comments coming from the Facebook page of an obscure American Evangelical ‘apologist’ going by the name of Sam Shamoun. Enjoy.

Sam Shamoun

Hey folks here is a debate which every serious Christian apologist needs to listen to, especially to the Muslim speaker who was a former “born again” Christian. Are we ready to answer his use of the Holy Bible to refute what we believe?

Paul Billal Williams, a false Prophet who must be put to death?

Nanna Mae If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or wonder, And the sign or the wonder comes to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other elohim, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not harken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for Yahweh your Elohim proveth you, to know whether ye love Yahweh your Elohim with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after Yahweh your Elohim, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from Yahweh your Elohim

The ‘Behara Code’ – the conspiracy theory that Islam was set up by an unhappy Monk – from ‘credible sources’

Lina Coptic This is a brief story of Islam, passed down to me from many generations of christian Arabs, for I too am a christian Arab. There was a christian monk named “Behera”. he preached false information and was exiled from the church. he sought revenge and so he went to his friend Muhammad and told him that they could start their own religion, wreak havoc on the christian church, and become powerful men at the same time. and this is why you find alot of Christian teachings in the quran.

Discouraging video

Tony Tanious discouraging video….what is the apologetic response to Matthew 18:23?

If we forgive other peoples  sins towards us, does it mean we will have to pay for those sins ourselves ‘out of our own pocket’? (furthermore, the parable of Matthew 18 :23 about pardoning debt, does not contain the word ‘ransom’).

Natalie Rahal I have an answer for Matthew 18 :23
It’s very simple actually.
The man was indebted to his master for a certain amount of money. But he was given pardon by his master, therefore the dept was already payed for from out of his own pocket. There WAS a ransom made. Because by definition, a ransom means for someone or something to be released by means of payment.

Paul Bilal Williams converted to Islam to gain the admiration of some Muslims??

Natalie Rahal

We shouldn’t let tricksters like Paul Bilal try to fool people. Both Muslims and Christians are being fooled. I don’t even think Paul Bilal is even a true Muslim , he is just trying to make a name for himself and enjoys being showered by Muslim admirations.

If Jesus is God, why does he need to be given authority? Ronald’s three questions…

Ronald Peter Sam, for my learning, would you please comment on the following arguments that Paul raised in this debate;

1) (Mark 2:5-12) why the scripture says, the Son of man has power “ON EARTH” to forgive sins? Jesus is God, He has divine powers and he can excercise that power anywhere regardless of location may it be heaven or Earth. Why is there emphasis on Earth?

2) Using the aforementioned passage, Paul argued that Jesus was “GIVEN” the authority to forgive sins if Jesus is God than He needs not to take the authority but excercise it as His right.

I have looked in parallel Bible KJV, NJV, NIV, NLT and did not find the word GIVEN that Paul refered to. I wonder what version he read this passage from?

Actually, if Ronald kept on reading it says in Matthew 9:

‘So he [Jesus] said to the paralyzed man, “Get up, take your mat and go home.” ⁷ Then the man got up and went home. ⁸ When the crowd saw this, they were filled with awe; and they praised God, who had given such authority to man.‘

It also is mentioned further on in the same gospel -

Matthew 28:18-19 (NIV)

‘Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit’

Sam Shamoun

Hey guys, here is the second part of that Christ-Muslim debate. You have to hear the Muslim’s rebuttal since he brings up a lot of tough objections that Christians need to answer

Paul apparently has ‘messed up’ a lot of Christian minds…

Lina Coptic Sam can you please do a favor and make a video refuting Paul Bilal Williams ‘s statements!! he brought up many points that need to be refuted!!! and he probably messed up alot of Christian minds! CAN YOU!??

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