Christianity

God NOT subordinate to any, but Jesus is!

The New Testament of the Bible repeatedly describes Jesus as essentially subordinate to God the Father. In a Speakers’ Corner discussion, Muslim speaker Hashim argues that Jesus cannot be God because he is subordinate to God since:

“The head of Christ is God” (1 Corinthians 11:3) and using the ‘key’ to all New Testament Christology:

“when He (Jesus) delivers up the kingdom to the God and Father,… then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who subjected all things to Him, that God may be all in all” (1 Corinthians 15.24-28).

It does not befit God to be subservient or subordinate to ANY one.

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  1. The passage says that the Son is subject, not subservient or subordinate, to the Father. kjv “then shall the Son himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.”

    • a friend emailed me this comment:

      ‘not very bright this chap…does he know how to use a dictionary?’

      subject

      Synonyms:

      adjective: subordinate, liable, dependent, dependant

      verb: subdue, subjugate, expose, submit, subordinate

  2. The text is not speaking of the Son in isolation. He becomes subject to the Father through the final resurrection of the saints in their entirety because of his spiritual union with them in his capacity of being the last Adam. He becomes subject to the Father at the resurrection because all of redeemed humanity is subdued and made subject to God through him and with him as the risen Christ.

    1 Cor 15 v 1: “But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept”.

    Without the resurrection of Christ as the head of redeemed humanity, in spiritual union with this humanity, the Son would not have become subject to the Father as the passage describes.

    1 Cor 15 v 42-45:

    So is also the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised in uncorruption.. It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; THE LAST ADAM was made a quickening spirit.

    • a fairly lame attempt to evade the plain meaning of the passage Madmana. The passage is not talking about ‘The Last Adam’ but…

      “then shall the Son himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.”

  3. I found the Christian concept of God helplessly unpalatable to critical human intellect. The speculative ‘dual natures of Christ’ – divine and human fused inseperably in a single person – entail that the Christ was infinite but also finite, omniscience yet ignorant, insubordinate yet subordinate, omnipresent yet limited by space, immortal yet mortal, God but human…! I found such a concept not beyond the grasp of human intellect (as a true concept of God should be) but highly pernicious to intellect and reason:(Also, I found that a god that has been made a god through centuries of human councils and speculations and subjective human interpretations of an evidently corrupted text is to a critical mind unworthy of being truly God. Or could anyone over there help this ‘god’ become truly God for critical minds?

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