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In Debate with Lewis, Anti Muslim blogger Robert Spencer fails to disprove that Islam is a religion of peace.

bildeOn 10th August 2013, Robert Spencer (Jihadwatch) debated MDI USA regional director, Shadid Lewis on the topic ‘Is Islam a Religion of Peace?’

Shadid Lewis argued giving definitions of peace. They included , ‘Freedom from civil disturbance, harmony in personal relations, a state or period of mutual concord between governments and a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity’. Based on these definitions of Peace , it was shown and proven in the debate with Spencer that clearly Islam within its teachings enjoins and is directed towards what is defined as peace. In the Quran 60:8 it enjoins kind and just relations with Non-Muslims who are not hostile to Muslims and are not trying to fight or drive Muslims from their homes, was cited as a clear proof that Islam enjoins harmony in personal relations. The unanimous opinion of the scholars in Islam, that Peace treaties are permitted because of Prophet Muhammads(PBUH) example of making just peace treaties, was cited as a proof of another example of peaceful teachings in Islam.

Throughout the debate many references were given from Islam’s highest source the Quran, along with other Islamic sources and scholarly understandings and opinions backing up the fact that indeed, Islam is a religion of Peace. Spencer failed to disprove the premise of the debate. He cited people such as the “Times Square bomber” suspect, The taliban, Anjum Choudary and other less reputable sources and opinions leaving his counter-claims wanting and weak. In many instances during the cross fire segment of the debate, Spencer was repeatedly refuted and exposed for his omissions of key facts about verses of the Quran or how Scholars understood or viewed hadith. For example Spencer cited the “I have been ordered to fight” hadith to the audience giving them the impression that Muhammad taught or commanded Muslims to fight and attack all people until they accept Islam. He was immediately exposed and refuted when Lewis called Spencer out for mis-informing the people for not telling them that the majority of the scholars say this hadith was only in reference to the Pagan Arabs .

Lewis further refuted Spencer by citing Imam Nawawi’s commentary on the 40 hadith which states that its is also an opinion that this hadith was Abrogated by the Qurans later rulings of peace agreements. Thus again proving the affirmative position that Islam is a religion of peace. Recall one of the definitions of peace is a pact or agreement to end hostilities. Surely if Spencer was the scholar of Islam that he self proclaims himself to be, he had to have known this about that hadith. Yet he willfully and deceitfully cited it to the audience. Another example where he was exposed and refuted was when he Cited Surah 4:89 putting emphasis on the part that reads ” Then if they turn back, seize them and kill them where ever you find them” Of course he gave no context, but again Lewis immediately exposed Spencer and called him out for once again omitting the very next verse. The very next verse Surah 4:90 clearly gave an exception to 4:89 , it reads ” Except those who join a people between whom and you there is a treaty, or  those who come to you reluctant to fight you or fight their own people. Had Allah willed, He would have given them power over you, and they would have fought you. Therefore, if they stay aloof and do not fight you, or if they make overtures of peace, then Allah has given you no reason to commit aggression against them.”  Clearly a verse mentioning Peace treaties with others ,enjoining peace and ending conflict, yet Spencer only cited verse 89. Again if he is the self proclaimed scholar of Islam that he claims, surely he had to know that the next verse set an exception and conditions to the previous verse. Thus he willfully tried to deceive the audience and would have gotten away with it, if not for the quick wittedness of Lewis.

The debate even touched on the constant claims of Spencer and others that those who commit acts allegedly in the name of Islam are motivateded by the Quran or other Islamic sources. Lewis refuted this by citing the writings of journalist Glen Greenwald, who documented the very statements of people either convicted or suspected of violent acts. The article cited, confirmed as Lewis has stated , that these persons always cited their motivation as “the continuous, horrific violence brought by the US and its allies to the Muslim world-“Violence which routinely kills and oppresses innocent men, women and children” This does not justify their actions in return, it does however tell us what motivated them and clearly it was not the Quran.  As Greenwald states ” ignoring the role played by US actions is dangerously self flattering and self delusional”  this applies perfectly to Spencer and his supporters. This debate was indeed a loss for Spencer and a heavy loss at that, having his crimes of omission exposed and his claims refuted to a public audience by Lewis. The premise of the debate was affirmed as One of the local Detroit News out lets The Marion Star reported from a young man in attendance -Alex Wallo, 17, of Westland “I’ve been persuaded to the affirmative position so far,” Wallo said of whether Islam is peaceful.

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  1. not only this something that is been Abrogated needs to say it itself.

    example.

    The Noble Qur’an – القرآن الكريم

    Surat An-Nisā’ ( سورة النساء )

    4:15

    Those who commit unlawful sexual intercourse from amongst your women - bring against them four [witnesses] from among you. And if they testify, confine the guilty women to houses until death takes them or Allah ordains for them [another] way.

    then comes that Abrogates it.

    24:2
    were it says.
    The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse – lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah , if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.

    what Abrogated this is what Allah(swa) Said Himself.
    of (or Allah ordains for them [another] way.)

    with all the other once
    Robert Spencer said we didn’t see this but. Shadid Lewis did a very good job in exposing
    Robert Spencer cheer picked versus and versus were he simply puts hes oun words to

    like somethings been Abrogated
    ignoring that the versus need to say it self. witch it doesn’t
    .
    expect if you read it half and half witch you can do with anything to make a self defeating augment witch self claimed scholar robert spencer did do.

    May Allah(SWA) Bless Shadid Lewis For All Hes Good Works And Keep Up The Good Work

    jazakallah khair🙂

    • Some of the Miracles of the Holy Prophet Muhammad

      A number of miracles were bestowed upon and performed by Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) to establish the proof of his prophethood. The greatest miracle bestowed upon him was the revelation of the Qur’an. The Qur’an is miraculous in a number of aspects: Its linguistic perfection and inimitability, its validation by recent historical, archaeological, and scientific discoveries, its prophecies and so on. Unlike the miracles of other prophets before him, the miracle of the Qur’an is eternal. Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) also provided us with a number of true prophecies.

      Below are accounts of the some of the other miracles of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) . Before reading these, it helps to know something about the Science of Traditions (Arabic: Ahadith), an exacting and comprehensive system developed by early Muslim scholars to verify the chain of transmission of these accounts, as well as investigating the trustworthiness and capability of every narrator at every level of the chain. This thorough authentication process ensures that these accounts are real, validated narrations of the sayings, actions, and tacit approvals of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).

      The Traditions mentioned below are all from Sahih al-Bukhari, the most authentic collection of ahadith.

      Splitting of the Moon

      Food Multiplication

      Water Multiplication

      Supplication for Rain

      Lights to guide Companions

      Crying of the stem of the Date-palm Tree

      Glorification of Allah by the Prophet’s meals

      The explusion of a liar’s corpse by the Earth

      The Speech of the Wolf

      The Prophet’s Night Journey to Jerusalem and Ascent to the Heavens

      Finally, in an additional webpage, we will discuss the miracles relating to the person and relics of the Blessed Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him).
      Splitting of the Moon

      “The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder” [Qur’an 54:1]

      Volume 6, Book 60, Number 388:

      Narrated Abdullah:

      The moon was cleft asunder while we were in the company of the Prophet, and it became two parts. The Prophet said, Witness, witness (this miracle).”
      Food Multiplication

      Volume 4, Book 56, Number 780:

      Narrated Jabir:

      My father had died in debt. So I came to the Prophet and said, “My father (died) leaving unpaid debts, and I have nothing except the yield of his date palms; and their yield for many years will not cover his debts. So please come with me, so that the creditors may not misbehave with me.” The Prophet went round one of the heaps of dates and invoked (Allah), and then did the same with another heap and sat on it and said, “Measure (for them).” He paid them their rights and what remained was as much as had been paid to them.
      Water Multiplication

      Volume 4, Book 56, Number 779:

      Narrated ‘Abdullah:

      We used to consider miracles as Allah’s Blessings, but you people consider them to be a warning. Once we were with Allah’s Apostle on a journey, and we ran short of water. He said, “Bring the water remaining with you.” The people brought a utensil containing a little water. He placed his hand in it and said, “Come to the blessed water, and the Blessing is from Allah.” I saw the water flowing from among the fingers of Allah’s Apostle , and no doubt, we heard the meal glorifying Allah, when it was being eaten (by him).

      Volume 4, Book 56, Number 777:

      Narrated Al-Bara:

      We were one-thousand-and-four-hundred persons on the day of Al-Hudaibiya (Treaty), and (at) Al-Hudaibiya (there) was a well. We drew out its water not leaving even a single drop. The Prophet sat at the edge of the well and asked for some water with which he rinsed his mouth and then he threw it out into the well. We stayed for a short while and then drew water from the well and quenched our thirst, and even our riding animals drank water to their satisfaction.

      Volume 1, Book 7, Number 340:

      Narrated ‘Imran:

      Once we were traveling with the Prophet and we carried on traveling till the last part of the night and then we (halted at a place) and slept (deeply). There is nothing sweeter than sleep for a traveler in the last part of the night. So it was only the heat of the sun that made us to wake up and the first to wake up was so and so, then so and so and then so and so (the narrator ‘Auf said that Abu Raja’ had told him their names but he had forgotten them) and the fourth person to wake up was ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab. And whenever the Prophet used to sleep, nobody would wake him up till he himself used to get up as we did not know what was happening (being revealed) to him in his sleep. So, ‘Umar got up and saw the condition of the people, and he was a strict man, so he said, “Allahu Akbar” and raised his voice with Takbir, and kept on saying it loudly till the Prophet got up because of it. When he got up, the people informed him about what had happened to them. He said, “There is no harm (or it will not be harmful). Depart!” So they departed from that place, and after covering some distance the Prophet stopped and asked for some water to perform the ablution. So he performed the ablution and the call for the prayer was pronounced and he led the people in prayer. After he finished from the prayer, he saw a man sitting aloof who had not prayed with the people. He asked, “O so and so! What has prevented you from praying with us?” He replied, “I am junub and there is no water. ” The Prophet said, “Perform tayammum with (clean) earth and that is sufficient for you.”

      Then the Prophet proceeded on and the people complained to him of thirst. Thereupon he got down and called a person (the narrator ‘Auf added that Abu Raja’ had named him but he had forgotten) and ‘Ali, and ordered them to go and bring water. So they went in search of water and met a woman who was sitting on her camel between two bags of water. They asked, “Where can we find water?” She replied, “I was there (at the place of water) this hour yesterday and my people are behind me.” They requested her to accompany them. She asked, “Where?” They said, “To Allah’s Apostle .” She said, “Do you mean the man who is called the Sabi’, (with a new religion)?” They replied, “Yes, the same person. So come along.” They brought her to the Prophet and narrated the whole story. He said, “Help her to dismount.” The Prophet asked for a pot, then he opened the mouths of the bags and poured some water into the pot. Then he closed the big openings of the bags and opened the small ones and the people were called upon to drink and water their animals. So they all watered their animals and they (too) all quenched their thirst and also gave water to others and last of all the Prophet gave a pot full of water to the person who was junub and told him to pour it over his body. The woman was standing and watching all that which they were doing with her water. By Allah, when her water bags were returned the looked like as if they were more full (of water) than they had been before (Miracle of Allah’s Apostle) Then the Prophet ordered us to collect something for her; so dates, flour and sawiq were collected which amounted to a good meal that was put in a piece of cloth. She was helped to ride on her camel and that cloth full of food-stuff was also placed in front of her and then the Prophet said to her, “We have not taken your water but Allah has given water to us.” She returned home late. Her relatives asked her: “O so and so what has delayed you?” She said, “A strange thing! Two men met me and took me to the man who is called the Sabi’ and he did such and such a thing. By Allah, he is either the greatest magician between this and this (gesturing with her index and middle fingers raising them towards the sky indicating the heaven and the earth) or he is Allah’s true Apostle.”

      Afterwards the Muslims used to attack the pagans around her abode but never touched her village. One day she said to her people, “I think that these people leave you purposely. Have you got any inclination to Islam?” They obeyed her and all of them embraced Islam.

      Abu ‘Abdultah said: The word saba’a means “The one who has deserted his old religion and embraced a new religion.” Abul ‘Ailya said, “The Sabis are a sect of people of the Scripture who recite the Book of Psalms.”
      Supplication for Rain

      Volume 8, Book 73, Number 115:

      Narrated Anas:

      A man came to the Prophet on a Friday while he (the Prophet) was delivering a sermon at Medina, and said, “There is lack of rain, so please invoke your Lord to bless us with the rain.” The Prophet looked at the sky when no cloud could be detected. Then he invoked Allah for rain. Clouds started gathering together and it rained till the Medina valleys started flowing with water. It continued raining till the next Friday. Then that man (or some other man) stood up while the Prophet was delivering the Friday sermon, and said, “We are drowned; Please invoke your Lord to withhold it (rain) from us” The Prophet smiled and said twice or thrice, “O Allah! Please let it rain round about us and not upon us.” The clouds started dispersing over Medina to the right and to the left, and it rained round about Medina and not upon Medina. Allah showed them (the people) the miracle of His Prophet and His response to his invocation.
      Lights to guide Companions

      Volume 1, Book 8, Number 454:

      Narrated Anas bin Malik:

      Two of the companions of the Prophet departed from him on a dark night and were led by two lights like lamps (going in front of them from Allah as a miracle) lighting the way in front of them, and when they parted, each of them was accompanied by one of these lights till he reached their (respective) houses.
      Crying of the stem of the Date-palm Tree

      Volume 4, Book 56, Number 783:

      Narrated Ibn Umar:

      The Prophet used to deliver his sermons while standing beside a trunk of a datepalm. When he had the pulpit made, he used it instead. The trunk started crying and the Prophet went to it, rubbing his hand over it (to stop its crying).
      Glorification of Allah by the Prophet’s meals

      Volume 4, Book 56, Number 779:

      Narrated ‘Abdullah:

      We used to consider miracles as Allah’s Blessings, but you people consider them to be a warning. Once we were with Allah’s Apostle on a journey, and we ran short of water. He said, “Bring the water remaining with you.” The people brought a utensil containing a little water. He placed his hand in it and said, “Come to the blessed water, and the Blessing is from Allah.” I saw the water flowing from among the fingers of Allah’s Apostle, and no doubt, we heard the meal glorifying Allah, when it was being eaten (by him).
      The expulsion of a liar’s corpse by the Earth

      Volume 4, Book 56, Number 814:

      Narrated Anas:

      There was a Christian who embraced Islam and read Surat-al-Baqara and Al-Imran, and he used to write (the revelations) for the Prophet. Later on he returned to Christianity again and he used to say: “Muhammad knows nothing but what I have written for him.” Then Allah caused him to die, and the people buried him, but in the morning they saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, “This is the act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and took his body out of it because he had run away from them.” They again dug the grave deeply for him, but in the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. They said, “This is an act of Muhammad and his companions. They dug the grave of our companion and threw his body outside it, for he had run away from them.” They dug the grave for him as deep as they could, but in the morning they again saw that the earth had thrown his body out. So they believed that what had befallen him was not done by human beings and had to leave him thrown (on the ground).
      The Speech of the Wolf

      Volume 3, Book 39, Number 517:

      Narrated Abu Huraira:

      The Prophet said, “While a man was riding a cow, it turned towards him and said, ‘I have not been created for this purpose (i.e. carrying), I have been created for sloughing.l” The Prophet added, “I, Abu Bakr and ‘Umar believe in the story.” The Prophet went on, “A wolf caught a sheep, and when the shepherd chased it, the wolf said, ‘Who will be its guard on the day of wild beasts, when there will be no shepherd for it except me?’ “After narrating it, the Prophet said, “I, Abu Bakr and ‘Umar too believe it.” Abu Salama (a sub-narrator) said, “Abu Bakr and ‘Umar were not present then.”

      It has been written that a wolf also spoke to one of the companions of the Prophet near Medina as narrated in Fath-al-Bari:Narrated Unais bin ‘Amr: Ahban bin Aus said, “I was amongst my sheep. Suddenly a wolf caught a sheep and I shouted at it. The wolf sat on its tail and addressed me, saying, ‘Who will look after it (i.e. the sheep) when you will be busy and not able to look after it? Do you forbid me the provision which Allah has provided me?’ ” Ahban added, “I clapped my hands and said, ‘By Allah, I have never seen anything more curious and wonderful than this!’ On that the wolf said, ‘There is something (more curious) and wonderful than this; that is, Allah’s Apostle in those palm trees, inviting people to Allah (i.e. Islam).’ “Unais bin ‘Amr further said, “Then Ahban went to Allah’s Apostle and informed him what happened and embraced Islam.)” palm trees or other trees and share the fruits with me.”
      The Prophet’s Night Journey to Jerusalem (Arabic: Israa) and Ascent to the Heavens (Arabic: Miraj)

      Volume 5, Book 58, Number 228:

      Narrated Ibn ‘Abbas:

      Regarding the Statement of Allah”

      “And We granted the vision (Ascension to the heavens) which We made you see (as an actual eye witness) was only made as a trial for the people.” (17.60)

      Ibn Abbas added: The sights which Allah’s Apostle was shown on the Night Journey when he was taken to Bait-ul Maqdis (i.e. Jerusalem) were actual sights, (not dreams). And the Cursed Tree (mentioned) in the Quran is the tree of Zaqqum (itself) .

      Volume 4, Book 54, Number 462:

      Narrated Ibn Abbas:

      The Prophet said, “On the night of my Ascent to the Heaven, I saw Moses who was a tall brown curly-haired man as if he was one of the men of Shan’awa tribe, and I saw Jesus, a man of medium height and moderate complexion inclined to the red and white colors and of lank hair. I also saw Malik, the gate-keeper of the (Hell) Fire and Ad-Dajjal amongst the signs which Allah showed me.” (The Prophet then recited the Holy Verse): “So be not you in doubt of meeting him’ when you met Moses during the night of Mi’raj over the heavens” (32.23)

      Narrated Anas and Abu Bakra: “The Prophet said, “The angels will guard Medina from Ad-Dajjal (who will not be able to enter the city of Medina).”

      Volume 5, Book 58, Number 227:

      Narrated Abbas bin Malik:

      Malik bin Sasaa said that Allah’s Apostle described to them his Night Journey saying, “While I was lying in Al-Hatim or Al-Hijr, suddenly someone came to me and cut my body open from here to here.” I asked Al-Jarud who was by my side, “What does he mean?” He said, “It means from his throat to his pubic area,” or said, “From the top of the chest.” The Prophet further said, “He then took out my heart. Then a gold tray of Belief was brought to me and my heart was washed and was filled (with Belief) and then returned to its original place. Then a white animal which was smaller than a mule and bigger than a donkey was brought to me.” (On this Al-Jarud asked, “Was it the Buraq, O Abu Hamza?” I (i.e. Anas) replied in the affirmative). The Prophet said, “The animal’s step (was so wide that it) reached the farthest point within the reach of the animal’s sight. I was carried on it, and Gabriel set out with me till we reached the nearest heaven.

      When he asked for the gate to be opened, it was asked, ‘Who is it?’ Gabriel answered, ‘Gabriel.’ It was asked, ‘Who is accompanying you?’ Gabriel replied, ‘Muhammad.’ It was asked, ‘Has Muhammad been called?’ Gabriel replied in the affirmative. Then it was said, ‘He is welcomed. What an excellent visit his is!’ The gate was opened, and when I went over the first heaven, I saw Adam there. Gabriel said (to me). ‘This is your father, Adam; pay him your greetings.’ So I greeted him and he returned the greeting to me and said, ‘You are welcomed, O pious son and pious Prophet.’ Then Gabriel ascended with me till we reached the second heaven. Gabriel asked for the gate to be opened. It was asked, ‘Who is it?’ Gabriel answered, ‘Gabriel.’ It was asked, ‘Who is accompanying you?’ Gabriel replied, ‘Muhammad.’ It was asked, ‘Has he been called?’ Gabriel answered in the affirmative. Then it was said, ‘He is welcomed. What an excellent visit his is!’ The gate was opened.

      When I went over the second heaven, there I saw Yahya (i.e. John) and ‘Isa (i.e. Jesus) who were cousins of each other. Gabriel said (to me), ‘These are John and Jesus; pay them your greetings.’ So I greeted them and both of them returned my greetings to me and said, ‘You are welcomed, O pious brother and pious Prophet.’ Then Gabriel ascended with me to the third heaven and asked for its gate to be opened. It was asked, ‘Who is it?’ Gabriel replied, ‘Gabriel.’ It was asked, ‘Who is accompanying you?’ Gabriel replied, ‘Muhammad.’ It was asked, ‘Has he been called?’ Gabriel replied in the affirmative. Then it was said, ‘He is welcomed, what an excellent visit his is!’ The gate was opened, and when I went over the third heaven there I saw Joseph. Gabriel said (to me), ‘This is Joseph; pay him your greetings.’ So I greeted him and he returned the greeting to me and said, ‘You are welcomed, O pious brother and pious Prophet.’ Then Gabriel ascended with me to the fourth heaven and asked for its gate to be opened. It was asked, ‘Who is it?’ Gabriel replied, ‘Gabriel’ It was asked, ‘Who is accompanying you?’ Gabriel replied, ‘Muhammad.’ It was asked, ‘Has he been called?’ Gabriel replied in the affirmative. Then it was said, ‘He is welcomed, what an excel lent visit his is!’

      The gate was opened, and when I went over the fourth heaven, there I saw Idris. Gabriel said (to me), ‘This is Idris; pay him your greetings.’ So I greeted him and he returned the greeting to me and said, ‘You are welcomed, O pious brother and pious Prophet.’ Then Gabriel ascended with me to the fifth heaven and asked for its gate to be opened. It was asked, ‘Who is it?’ Gabriel replied, ‘Gabriel.’ It was asked. ‘Who is accompanying you?’ Gabriel replied, ‘Muhammad.’ It was asked, ‘Has he been called?’ Gabriel replied in the affirmative. Then it was said He is welcomed, what an excellent visit his is! So when I went over the fifth heaven, there I saw Harun (i.e. Aaron), Gabriel said, (to me). This is Aaron; pay him your greetings.’ I greeted him and he returned the greeting to me and said, ‘You are welcomed, O pious brother and pious Prophet.’ Then Gabriel ascended with me to the sixth heaven and asked for its gate to be opened. It was asked. ‘Who is it?’ Gabriel replied, ‘Gabriel.’ It was asked, ‘Who is accompanying you?’ Gabriel replied, ‘Muhammad.’ It was asked, ‘Has he been called?’ Gabriel replied in the affirmative. It was said, ‘He is welcomed. What an excellent visit his is!’

      When I went (over the sixth heaven), there I saw Moses. Gabriel said (to me),’ This is Moses; pay him your greeting. So I greeted him and he returned the greetings to me and said, ‘You are welcomed, O pious brother and pious Prophet.’ When I left him (i.e. Moses) he wept. Someone asked him, ‘What makes you weep?’ Moses said, ‘I weep because after me there has been sent (as Prophet) a young man whose followers will enter Paradise in greater numbers than my followers.’ Then Gabriel ascended with me to the seventh heaven and asked for its gate to be opened. It was asked, ‘Who is it?’ Gabriel replied, ‘Gabriel.’ It was asked,’ Who is accompanying you?’ Gabriel replied, ‘Muhammad.’ It was asked, ‘Has he been called?’ Gabriel replied in the affirmative. Then it was said, ‘He is welcomed. What an excellent visit his is!’

      So when I went (over the seventh heaven), there I saw Abraham. Gabriel said (to me), ‘This is your father; pay your greetings to him.’ So I greeted him and he returned the greetings to me and said, ‘You are welcomed, O pious son and pious Prophet.’ Then I was made to ascend to Sidrat-ul-Muntaha (i.e. the Lote Tree of the utmost boundary) Behold! Its fruits were like the jars of Hajr (i.e. a place near Medina) and its leaves were as big as the ears of elephants. Gabriel said, ‘This is the Lote Tree of the utmost boundary) . Behold ! There ran four rivers, two were hidden and two were visible, I asked, ‘What are these two kinds of rivers, O Gabriel?’ He replied,’ As for the hidden rivers, they are two rivers in Paradise and the visible rivers are the Nile and the Euphrates.’

      Then Al-Bait-ul-Ma’mur (i.e. the Sacred House) was shown to me and a container full of wine and another full of milk and a third full of honey were brought to me. I took the milk. Gabriel remarked, ‘This is the Islamic religion which you and your followers are following.’ Then the prayers were enjoined on me: They were fifty prayers a day. When I returned, I passed by Moses who asked (me), ‘What have you been ordered to do?’ I replied, ‘I have been ordered to offer fifty prayers a day.’ Moses said, ‘Your followers cannot bear fifty prayers a day, and by Allah, I have tested people before you, and I have tried my level best with Bani Israel (in vain). Go back to your Lord and ask for reduction to lessen your followers’ burden.’ So I went back, and Allah reduced ten prayers for me. Then again I came to Moses, but he repeated the same as he had said before. Then again I went back to Allah and He reduced ten more prayers. When I came back to Moses he said the same, I went back to Allah and He ordered me to observe ten prayers a day. When I came back to Moses, he repeated the same advice, so I went back to Allah and was ordered to observe five prayers a day.

      When I came back to Moses, he said, ‘What have you been ordered?’ I replied, ‘I have been ordered to observe five prayers a day.’ He said, ‘Your followers cannot bear five prayers a day, and no doubt, I have got an experience of the people before you, and I have tried my level best with Bani Israel, so go back to your Lord and ask for reduction to lessen your follower’s burden.’ I said, ‘I have requested so much of my Lord that I feel ashamed, but I am satisfied now and surrender to Allah’s Order.’ When I left, I heard a voice saying, ‘I have passed My Order and have lessened the burden of My Worshippers.”

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      Miracles by means of the Relics of the Prophet

      HA, ha, ha!

  2. not only this something that is been Abrogated needs to say it itself.

    example.

    The Noble Qur’an – القرآن الكريم

    Surat An-Nisā’ ( سورة النساء )

    4:15

    Those who commit unlawful sexual intercourse from amongst your women - bring against them four [witnesses] from among you. And if they testify, confine the guilty women to houses until death takes them or Allah ordains for them [another] way.

    then comes that witch Abrogates it.

    24:2
    were it says.
    The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse – lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah , if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.

    what Abrogated this is what Allah(swa) Said Himself.
    of (or Allah ordains for them [another] way.)

    with all the other once
    Robert Spencer said we didn’t see this but. Shadid Lewis did a very good job in exposing
    Robert Spencer cheer picked versus and versus were he simply puts hes oun words to

    like somethings been Abrogated
    ignoring that the versus need to say it self. witch it doesn’t
    .
    expect if you read it half and half witch you can do with anything to make a self defeating augment witch self claimed scholar robert spencer did do.

    May Allah(SWA) Bless Shadid Lewis For All Hes Good Works And Keep Up The Good Work

    jazakallah khair

  3. not only this something that is been Abrogated needs to say it itself.

    example.

    The Noble Qur’an – القرآن الكريم

    Surat An-Nisā’ ( سورة النساء )

    4:15

    Those who commit unlawful sexual intercourse from amongst your women - bring against them four [witnesses] from among you. And if they testify, confine the guilty women to houses until death takes them or Allah ordains for them [another] way.

    then comes that witch Abrogates it.

    24:2
    were it says.
    The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse – lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah , if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.

    what Abrogated this is what Allah(swa) Said Himself.
    of (or Allah ordains for them [another] way.)

    with all the other once
    Robert Spencer said we didn’t see this but. Shadid Lewis did a very good job in exposing
    Robert Spencer cheer picked versus and versus were he simply puts hes oun words to

    like somethings been Abrogated
    ignoring that the versus need to say it self. witch it doesn’t
    .
    expect if you read it half and half witch you can do with anything to make a self defeating augment witch self from a self claimed scholar known as robert spencer.

    jazakallah Shadid Lewis For All Hes Good Works

    jazakallah khair

  4. Spot on analysis !

    This is exactly what i felt after watching the debate . Spencer quoted the Taliban , times square bombers etc .

    His position of peaceful verses being abrogated by verses commanding to fight is nothing but his fantasy , he quoted only A scholar on this . All the other scholars would just say otherwise , well this is deceit to me .

    Well done bro. Shadid !

  5. Govt of America will supply weapons to rebels in any country that choose not to do deal with them. Outcome, war erupt non stop for decades in those countries.

    And in some war that they participate, you can see Christian missionaries doing their job behind the banner of humanity-aid. And they say Christianity is not spread by sword and deception.

    • The only people who seem to have posted a video of this debate on youtube are Muslims. The non-muslims, including Robert Spencer himself, have not, as far as I can see, uploaded any video of this debate. This indicates to me that Robert spencer lost the debate, because if he won, you just know he and his fellow muslim-bashers would have uploaded a dozen videos of the debate on youtube by now. The muslim debater Shadid lewis had uploaded the debate onto youtube, whereas Robert spencer has not, very telling.

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